Keeping It Real: Kingdom Conversations with Chris Barhorst, Kevin Bryant, Stefani Jebavy and Jon Jebavy
We wanted to give others a chance to listen in on three friends who love Jesus talking about the word and truth. Each week we will release an entire conversation that is about an hour and a half. Every conversation will be three parts and be around thirty minutes each episode. Every Monday will be part 1, Wednesday part 2 and Friday part 3, and every week is a different conversation. We pray you find hope in every episode as we discuss different topics. These conversations may challenge you or encourage you. Always ask the Father about what you hear and let Him confirm His truth to you; never take what anyone says as truth without confirmation from Holy Spirit. We hope you are blessed by these podcasts!
Keeping It Real: Kingdom Conversations with Chris Barhorst, Kevin Bryant, Stefani Jebavy and Jon Jebavy
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The conversation centers on the spiritual and practical application of Christian principles—specifically love, humility, and yielding—within the workplace and personal relationships. The group discusses the "shift" in their reality following a recent spiritual experience and explores how to maintain a "holy response" rather than a "fleshly reaction" when faced with betrayal, envy, or conflict.
Spiritual Perspectives on Conflict
- The Debt of Love: Referencing Romans 13:8, the group emphasizes that while financial debt is a matter of practical management, the "debt of love" is one that can never be fully repaid. This serves as the foundational motive for treating others well, even when they are antagonistic.
- Yielding and Peace: A participant shares a personal story from a past factory job where apologizing to an aggressive coworker—despite being in the right—immediately dissolved their own internal rage. They cite Ecclesiastes 10:4, noting that "yielding pacifies great offenses" and provides emotional healing.
- The "Serpent" in the Call: The group discusses the symbolism of Moses’ rod turning into a serpent, suggesting that every person's calling contains a "serpent" of self/ego that must be "thrown down" to be used by God.
Workplace Dynamics and Integrity
- Responding to Betrayal: One speaker describes a situation where a supervisor, Eric, took credit for their idea to win an award. Instead of fighting for credit, the speaker chose to support the supervisor, viewing the situation as a test of their commitment to walking in love rather than self-promotion.
- Subtlety vs. Dishonesty: In a discussion about a potential promotion that might cause envy in a coworker, the group explores the concept of "playing the game" through subtlety. They compare this to Samuel’s approach in the Old Testament—using wisdom to navigate transitions without unnecessary confrontation.
- The Witness of Difference: The group reflects on how secular coworkers are constantly "watching" Christians. They conclude that responding with peace and looking out for the interests of those who wrong you provides a more powerful witness than verbal proselytizing.
Maturity and Discipline
- Intentional Growth: The group rejects the idea that spiritual maturity happens by accident. They argue that growth requires intentionality and often occurs in moments of discomfort, which people mistakenly attribute to the "devil" rather than a process of refinement.
- The Role of Brokenness: Humility and "brokenness" are identified as the primary indicators of a person's readiness for "God’s promotion." They warn against the danger of "puffed up" knowledge that lacks a heart for service.
- Abiding in Love: The discussion concludes with the importance of "keeping yourself in the love of God." They note that one cannot give what they do not have; therefore, maintaining a personal revelation of being loved by God is the only way to consistently love others.
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